About the Interviewee:
Idelfonso “Pancho” Colon
Jr. is the commander of the American
Legion department of Puerto Rico. He is
a young veteran, only in his early fifties.
He was severely wounded while in combat in Iraq, and was honorably
discharged. He served for twenty-five
years in the Marine Corps, and was First Sergeant at the time of his
injury. Today, he devotes most of his
time to serving veterans here in Puerto Rico.
Below is a transcribed version of a phone interview from November 7,
2013.
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Abigail:
What was your role within that capacity [as First Sergeant]?
Pancho : Really, I’m kinda brain-washed. Haha.
I was part of Mission Accomplishment, you know, taking care of the
people under me, and trying to get them home.
A: Why did you decide to join the Marines?
P: Oh, well it’s a two part thing. 1) The patriotism I
had growing up, and I had a lot of family members in the military, and they
were an example to me, and I followed their footsteps. And 2) everyone talks about how hard it is to
be in the Marines, so I thought I’d take on that challenge.
Everyone chooses
to join for different reasons… One of my company commanders… he was a Harvard
grad, and I used to say “what the heck are you doing here?” because he could
pretty much write his own checks [with a civilian job]. But he would tell me, “I’m here because this
is what I want to do-- serve my country.”
And I was like, wow, we’re talking about a man who could pretty much
pick out what he wants to do in life, and… he was serving his country for
peanuts.
A: You know young
people like me are looking to go pretty far in life, and sometimes we can be,
even with the best intentions, selfish in those desires. But no matter what, it’s important to find a
way to give back. And maybe that’s not what
he did, but some way to give back.
P: Exactly… By the way, today is my ninth “Alive Day.”
Today is the day I was wounded in Iraq, exactly nine years ago.
A: So this is a day you kinda commemorate each year?
P: Not really commemorate, but it’s hard to forget, but
you know, wounded soldiers, they always call the day [that they were wounded]
their “Alive Day.”
A: Was there one time, for you as someone serving in the
Marines, when you suddenly realized the gravity of your role in the armed
forces?
P: Oh yes, yes. I
can give you an example. It’s a little
horrific, but it’s a great example for your question. You know, nobody really wants to go to war but
it’s one of those necessary evils I guess.
When we were in Talusha, we entered this torture chamber, and just to
see that kinda vindicated the reason I was there. I had my doubts, but when I saw these places
with knee hooks and blood on the cement floors, I knew we were doing the right
thing. It was a pivotal moment… I was
questioning my will to follow orders, but when you actually see the reality,
these places where there are mass graves, where recently, they were still torturing
people, and you liberate people from that, and it’s like “wow.”
One of the
companies that I was first sergeant in was the one that liberated the POWs
(Prisoners of War) at the beginning of the war—the two pilots, the woman-- they
were a part of that group. When you
actually see something like that, it puts it back in perspective-- that what I’m
doing here is really worthwhile.
Not only
that, but the schools that we built while we were there, the infrastructure that
we helped build. We brought water to
places that never had water, never had electricity. Even though we destroyed stuff, we actually
did some humanitarian, “good” things too.
A: Right. It’s interesting to hear that perspective
because there’s been a bit of a backlash about U.S. intervention, going into
other places, but I watched this really interesting documentary recently called
“The World Without US.” This British
professor did a study, and he concluded that if the United States stopped being
the world’s, if you want to call it, “police,” we’d have a very different
place.
Sometimes
the armed forces get a backlash for taking on things that aren’t directly
related to defending the country, but who’s going to do it if we don’t? There hasn’t been another country that’s
stepped up to it.
P: That’s a great
point, because in the two world wars that were involved in, our foreign policy
was isolationism. We wanted to stay out of everyone’s business, but we answered
in World War I, and we entered again in World War II. Both times, we didn’t really want to be
there, but it happened.
You’re gonna
hear it all the time. “Ah, we can’t be the world’s police.”—we didn’t ask for
that job, you know. It’s just the way
things turned out. And really, when we
turn a blind eye, we’re just as responsible as the people who committed those
atrocities. I believe, granted, our
country has done a lot of bad things, but I believe the good intentions were
there. It’s just how some of those
things worked out.
A: Going back to
your experiences, was there something particularly that made you question
yourself, what you were doing, something that you saw that made you ask “why am
I here?”
P: Yeah (the
anniversary of that happening is in two days) [it] is when I lost my first
Marine in combat. As a leader, it’s
kinda unrealistic, but it’s there: your goal is to bring everyone back [with]
you. But the very definition of war is
that you’re gonna lose someone.
So anyways,
I kinda took that hard [losing the Marine]. You want to come home with everyone
you left with. When you look at reality,
you realize that’s impossible, but still, you blame yourself. “What could I have done differently? If we had left five minutes later [would he
have made it]?” You start questioning
yourself, but at the end of it all, you realize this is war, and this is what
happens. That took a long time for me.
Especially
since he was only 19 years old, and I’d already lived a full life, and he was
just in the prime of his.
A: Nineteen years old.
Some of us [civilian] nineteen year olds (I’m not too far from that
age), [are] not that responsible. We’re
just going to college or getting our first jobs. But someone out there is defending our
country…
This doesn’t
even really have to be related to combat, but what was one of your best memories
as a part of the armed forces?
P: The camaraderie. The togetherness. You live in a structured environment, and not
many people question authority, but there is a bond. Even though we come from all walks of life,
it brings us all together, because that’s what our country is. It’s something that my wife [she’s a veteran
as well] says is the “most perfect, imperfect society that there is, yet it
works.” We’re dysfunctional, but it
works. It worked for us
.
A: Do have one
more story [that you want to share]?
P: I do. There’s
an old saying, like World War I or World War II, and they used to say “there
are no atheists in foxholes.” And let me
tell you, that is true…
When I was
evacuated for my medical evacuation, the first person who carried my stretcher
was in the Airforce, but remember, I was in the Marines. Still, he looked down and called me by
name. “Colon!”
He was one
of my recruits ten years prior, not of the Marine Corps, but he joined the Air
Guard, and he was in Iraq, carrying my stretcher onto a plane and taking me to
Germany.
A second
person was put in my [path] and that was a Marine next to me who was about
18-19 years old, and he had been badly wounded, and he had all kinds of hoses connected
to him. He was conscious and he was
crying, and I put my hand on his shoulder and said “hey, look, we’re gonna be
okay.” Through that conversation with
him, I found out that my son had trained him [in the military].
I don’t
think God deals in coincidences.
The plane
landed in Germany, and the door opens, and I hear someone say “is Colon onboard?” The air nurse said yes, and he comes over to
me, and he shakes me by the shoulders, and says “Son, it’s me, Luis Serrano.” Five years prior, he had been one of my
trainers, but Luis Serrano had gotten out of the Marine Corps, and joined the
Army Reserve to be a medic. Here he was,
taking care of me.
Anyways, I
get retired, I get sent to Puerto Rico.
All returning veterans have to go see a counselor, and they assigned one
to me. So [my counselor], she looks at
my records, and says “Hhmm, are you from
New York? You’re from the Bronx?”
I said “yah.”
“And your
mother’s name is Judy, and your father’s name is Ildey.”
“What?!”
“Yah, I used
to go to your dad’s store [in the Bronx] when I was eleven years old.”
I didn’t
remember her, but this woman knew me, my family…
Going back
to what I said, “there are no atheists in a foxhole,” God put an angel in every
step of that journey to bring me back home.
Spiritually, I think that’s the best thing that happened to me on the
way back. And it’s also sign of the camaraderie… If anything, I know God put those people
there for me so I could make it home okay.
And that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.
Interviewer’s Note:
I have known Pancho for a number of
years through various youth programs with the American Legion. Both he and his wife are incredibly inspiring
individuals, and it was a great honor to interview him. His story is rather unique, since we usually
characterize veterans as old, wizened gentlemen with their stories of the
triumphs and horrors of the armed forces half a century ago. For Pancho, he was on the war-front during this
recent, and arguably controversial, War in Iraq. His insight on the motivations behind this
war and the actions of the armed forces is rather interesting as it differs
from many civilian opinions.
Secondly, we often don’t realize what
a profound effect active combat can have on a person’s life, even years
later. I remember attending a birthday
party and noticing him standing at a distance from the crowd, at the front of
the room. I jokingly asked him if he was
on sentry duty. He told me that ever
since he was injured in combat, he can’t handle being in the crowd; he feels
claustrophobic and trapped because it reminds him of when he was stuck in a mangled
tank while in Iraq.
Hopefully, as civilians learn the
stories of our veterans and active soldiers, we can learn to thank them, not
just for what they did on the front lines, but also for what they continue to
endure on the home-front for the rest of their lives.